Translated from Japanese: Even though the taste is strong, the fat is really delicious!!!
When eating this store’s chicken breast, I realized there’s a difference to usual chicken and because a family member’s birthday is near, I’ve decided to order this whole chicken.
I cooked it the same as always, but the meat quality is completely different!
The whole family is a total fan of this taste and aroma. Thank you (^^)
Translated from Japanese: Although I have bought several types of chicken here already, it’s my first time trying this whole chicken.
To prepare it carefully, I washed it, but even so, there was no fat or blood on the chicken.
It was the same with the other chicken products I already tried, but there was also not the characteristic (strong) smell of chicken.
Because it’s hard to know the chicken’s life from the packs that you can find in the supermarket, I could finally feel with this product that the chicken’s life was spent preciously. I’m thankful I’m able to enjoy this chicken meat and won’t waste a bite, as one shouldn’t forget this animal once had a precious life, too.
Although I boiled it for 1½ hours, the meat didn’t get dry, the fat sticking to the meat had no unpleasant smell and I got a soup with a golden color.
I order all the meat I need from this store, I’ve come to not like any other ones.
Although I eat a lot less meat now, I have not become a vegetarian or vegan yet, so I think I want to not forget to at least be thankful for the meal this chicken gave me.
I’m sorry for this long comment.
I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: Preciously raised chickens packaged carefully (for delivery) arrived in the best condition possible.
I grilled it with natural salt and thyme from my garden. It was really delicious, a complete success. Even cooled down packed inside a bento, there is no unpleasant smell.
Translated from Japanese: With this product, I made roast chicken for the first time.
I marinated it for 1 hour with salt and pepper and rosemary. After filling the chicken with garlic, I baked it thoroughly in the oven.
My daughter was so happy! “This is incredibly delicious!!!” She said.
I know that if you defrost this store’s chicken, you have to process it cleanly.
Inside a vacuum pack, the quality also remains the same.
It was really delicious meat.
More than the smell, the taste was rich in flavor.
It was amazing!!!
My daughter has a pesticide and antibiotics allergy.
For that reason, we bought the most expensive organic chicken meat we could find in a supermarket to cook with it.
But the quality of the oil of the top-grade supermarket chicken and this store’s chicken is different!
Even if you eat a lot, your stomach doesn’t feel heavy.
Surprisingly, it was even a pleasure to clean the plates and the oven.
I want to film myself cleaning and show everyone.
Translated from Japanese: It’s a good product for those who like the scent of lamb with good meat quality.
Translated from Japanese: This is a reorder. I want to make stew, but they don't sell a whole piece of lamb anywhere near me.
It’s delicious even if it’s cut thinly and suits Genghis Khan.
Translated from Japanese: Although it’s frozen, if you take the time to thaw it, the meat will be very moist without any unpleasant smell. I boiled it in thyme, chickpea, turmeric, and paprika. Nothing beats this.
Translated from Japanese: You can enjoy that there is no difference between the picture and the actual amount of meat in person. There’s nothing to complain about if you get this amount for a discounted price! The shop’s correspondence is also good.
Translated from Japanese: It had a gentle taste that made it so delicious. It’s my favorite kind of taste. I may have my reasons why I came to like it, but I wasn’t worried about the smell lamb meat is known for.
Because it was a big block once again, there’s really only a little dripping when defrosting. Those who are good at cooking can challenge themselves to many different dishes. Today (5/18), I ordered again.
Translated from Japanese: I'd be happy if the price was a little more reasonable, but it can't be helped if it's a good product!
Translated from Japanese: The meat was very soft and juicy, and it was delicious without any unpleasant smell.
My family who ate lamb for the first time also said it’s tastier than beef! I was impressed. We will order again.
Translated from Japanese: Previously, lamb meat in Hokkaido was very smelly, so I disliked lamb meat from that point on.
But lately, my wife has been cooking this shop’s meat at home and at first, I refused to eat it. But then I thought, what? This is really lamb? There was no smell, the meat was soft and somehow I ate up everything. I will order again, as it was very very delicious.
I had this lamb chops with my boyfriend. At first he was very sceptical because he had lamb once in Hokkaido and it was gross. But after convincing him that high quality lamb isn't tangy, he gave it a try and was stunned. This lamb is really delicious and tender. We both love it
Translated from Japanese: Although it's grass-fed beef, it was delicious without any odor because it’s grain-finished.
Even after thawing and cooking it immediately, it was not dry and soft. It's expensive because it's the highest quality, but it was meat that made me want to eat it again.
Translated from Japanese: It had the feeling of “American beef”.
Translated from Japanese: Because the meat was so thick, it’s not enough to only cook two sides, but the sides have to be carefully grilled as well to reach the medium rare state. It’s an unique article that tastes good from the first bite, but is even more delicious when you chew it. When you say “ah” with the food in your mouth, a nice aroma comes out and the meat’s taste spreads evenly. With just salt and pepper, nothing else is needed, I grilled it in a simple way. I thought the fat on the meat would smell, but a properly raised cow is different after all. I’m happy for having had something delicious!
Translated from Japanese: I prepared those three and compared them. My friend liked the sirloin meat. It tastes like steak, my friend said. My husband liked the flap meat steak. He said it tasted like the meat was cut from the best part of the cow. I quickly wrapped it inside a tortilla and ate it like that and even the meat juice sticking to the tortilla was delicious~
We bought 10 of these for our garden party last week and each and every person was truly amazed by the quality and the taste. Our chef cooked them to medium and we used your Italian salt. Almost too good to give them to the kids!! We grilled the burgers for them anywy - they were exceptional as well - bravo! My family and I appreciate your business and are very happy to have found healthy and safe meat in Japan. I'd recommend adding more brochures so we can hand them out.
Translated from Japanese: It was delicious with a very gentle taste. You can verify the origin of the ingredients and because high quality chicken was used, you can eat with confidence. You can't get a frozen meat pie like this anywhere else. The volume was solid, and I was full with this alone. It’s a meat pie that you want to keep in stock.
Translated from Japanese: Chicken pie with a natural and gentle taste. There wasn’t a strong taste of unnatural seasonings, so it was very delicious.
I don’t like green peas, but I could eat this pie without the green peas interfering with the taste of other ingredients.
My family is a family of three, so I'd be happy if there were three sold together.
Translated from Japanese: When using my oven, after 35 minutes, the dough on the side of the pie was still white even though the upper part was brown already, but it was delicious anyway. The dough is crispy and the contents are delicious with the scent of laurel, and when you don't have time to cook, you can have it with either salad or soup as a full meal.
If you have lamb sheep meat or minced wild boar, I will buy it!
I would like you to sell frozen puff pastry made from organic flour and butter in the future. You can't go shopping too far in times of Corona, so if you have pie dough made from organically grown ingredients online, you can always make tart with fruits ... Chicken liver pie wrapping ... Please consider it!
I love chicken pies and these certainly did not disappoint, from the flaky pastry to the rich, very tasty filling! Highly recommend these delicious pies!
Translated from Japanese: One pie is enough to fill you up. The taste was not too strong and it was very delicious.
It seems to be very useful for holiday brunch, and it’s a nice product to have in the freezer.
I want to order it again in the future.
These are fantastic home made pies. The proper stuff and not factory processed. Big thumbs up to Punk Doily. Super tasty!
Full of flavor and very little fat dripping onto the bottom pan in the oven. Thawed then roasted for 1hr in a gas convection oven 175c on a grate breast up, keeping the chicken off the dripping pan about 3cm. The breast has a lot more meat that other store-bought chickens I have had here in Japan and that includes the Japanese domestic chickens. Totally worth the extra price for the 2kg.
Translated from Japanese: I got this as a Mother’s Day gift for my mother whom I couldn’t meet. The meat was soft and juicy and really delicious, she said. It’s also possible to order this warmly and with no worries as present for staff members. I think they package everything carefully, too. Thank you very much. I think I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: It’s like eating the steak of a famous steak house! I ate one steak with salt and wasabi. I used a fish grill and grilled it on both sides on low flame. After wrapping it up in aluminum foil, I turned the flame up and grilled it thoroughly on both sides. It turned out perfectly rose-pink. I ordered again right away. This time, I got a filet, sirloin, ribeye and salt set. I think I will look forward to doing this once a month.
Translated from Japanese: Both, wagyu and American beef are of very high quality when it comes to their tenderness, the flavor of the lean meat and the sweetness of the fat. Although I think that the center of wagyu is the tastiest. I wonder if it’s because it’s grass-fed beef? Just like grain-fed, pure wagyu, this beef also doesn’t feel like it has a lot of fat on it and I think this is optimal to eat it as steak.
Translated from Japanese: I absolutely like this beef more than the beef from the famous beef restaurant of my local area. Marbled steak is always really soft and juicy, so it’s a light dish. Although I ate a lot, I don’t feel guilty. I’m happy I ate something healthy. I usually don’t like the smell of beef, but this one didn’t have any. My father’s teeth are weak, but he ate this ribeye happily. I think it’s easy to eat for children, too. While writing this comment, I feel like eating it again!
Translated from Japanese: I’ve reached that age where I hate very oily meat. It’s my first time ordering American beef online, but the concentrated, original taste of the meat was amazing.
Translated from Japanese: I didn't think that the berry mix contained strawberries, so I bought the strawberries alone. Although it’s mentioned in the product description, how about sending something different from the product image, because I wanted to eat more berries.
Also, although the strawberry was safe, only the berry mix was thawed and arrived, which is a mystery, but I think it’s a problem of Yamato's delivery. There was a satisfaction guarantee, so when I contacted the shop, they responded promptly and properly, and there was no problem with the product that was sent again. I’m very happy about that.
Translated from Japanese: It was a delicious frozen fruit, so I bought it as well, but I was disappointed that more than half of it seemed to have melted and hardened, and all tended to stick together.
The shop contacted me and sent me the same product again with "Satisfaction Guarantee".
The newly arrived items arrived properly without any lumps.
“Please contact me,” I wrote casually and they responded sincerely until the end.
I felt that it was a trustworthy shop that I can use with a great peace of mind.
It's an organic frozen fruit and it contains a lot of it, so it's a nice product for my family who eats a lot every day.
Fruits are good for the body, but organic ones are hard to find.
Of all the fruits, berries are the healthiest and have antioxidant properties.
Berry pigments have anti-aging, anti-cancer, and antioxidant effects, so it’s a product that you want to take often.
Translated from Japanese: Recently I switched from rice to bread. The yogurt that I didn't eat at the time of rice is back. Apples, bananas.
Fruit yogurt with citrus fruits. I love berry fruits, so I really wanted to add them, but this is quite difficult. Frozen fruits that are safe, secure and of high quality are hard to find.
I finally found it while searching patiently on the internet every day. Organic JAS certified organic has a good reputation and I ordered this product, so I could eat it every day with peace of mind. Raspberries-Blackberries-Strawberries, all of them are very big. It’d be convenient to have a fastener on the mouth of the bag. I had extra strawberries and raspberries and unexpectedly the raspberries were fragrant and sweet and very delicious, so I ended up ordering raspberry-only products later. Blackberries and raspberries are not very sweet. I think it's because they’re frozen. I think they will be a little sweeter at room temperature. I decided to buy it for my daughter who lives by herself because it’s organic, colorful and very delicious. I’m looking forward to eating them every morning.
Translated from Japanese: I’m grateful that I can easily get various organic berries. I often make smoothies with bananas. I like these because they’re sweet enough and have just the right acidity without any sweeteners.
Translated from Japanese: I put the amount of berries I want to eat the next day in the refrigerator overnight and put them on yogurt in the morning.
Children aged 5 and 3 can also eat sugar-free yogurt deliciously.
I finished them within a week so quickly, so I will reorder them.
I'm glad that this mix contains blackberries, as they’re hard to come by.
Translated from Japanese: I bought meat from New Zealand for the first time. As a thick-sliced steak, the meat was tender and delicious with a moderate amount of oil. I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: We enjoyed a delicious steak dinner in time for Christmas. The meat quality was soft and the fat balance was good.
Translated from Japanese: I ate it as pork shabu-shabu. It was full of flavor and very delicious.
Translated from Japanese: It was really soft, there was no bad smell, it was easy to eat and really delicious.
I overlooked the product description and let them defrost completely in the fridge overnight and it got hard to peel the meat off the paper. I felt that it’s helpful that all products have a description.
Translated from Japanese: It was really delicious meat. Because I couldn’t finish it in one go, I will have a cold shabu salad today.
We tried the 500gr pack for 3 and it vanished without a trace in no time: Excellent taste, lovely in the bite. We tried some other smoked organic salmon alongside but no comparison.
An absolute feast dinner just with toast and Champagne! We will reorder.
I have not found smoked salmon without preservatives, so I was excited to find this product. My whole family loves this! We have been eating the 500 gram pack for a few days on salads and toasted bread.
Translated from Japanese: I have bought it many times.
I’m very satisfied that I can eat it with no worries.
I was very happy when I sent it to my relatives the other day.
I was surprised and impressed by the big salmon.
It’s delicious to have wasabi and soy sauce, but it’s also delicious to mix with sesame oil, soy sauce, avocado and eat it like a salad.
I will buy it again!
Translated from Japanese: I have ordered many times.
It tastes very good.
However, there are some bones that have not been removed every time.
Translated from Japanese: I ordered for the first time.
I was looking for a high quality salmon with high safety, so I am glad that I was dealing with that salmon here.
I tried to eat it at once.
It was a very delicious salmon that didn't disappoint. I want to order this again! I recommend it.
Translated from Japanese: It’s easy to cut because there’s no skin. I’m so happy that I can eat salmon this delicious in Japan.
Translated from Japanese: The fat part was hard and there were many streaks, but the taste was delicious.
Translated from Japanese: If you want a thick sliced steak, I recommend small filets more than sirloin or rib roasts.
Only if possible, use a thick iron plate and grill it slowly, it won’t go wrong for sure.
Translated from Japanese: While wondering if this had been a waste of money, I grilled it for a BBQ. I put it on the grill and topped it off with the sea salt that is sold here as well. After adding some pepper as well, I grilled it on low heat. Once the entire meat had changed its color, I broiled it right in the middle of the grill on the highest heat. When I cut it into pieces it was perfectly medium-rare. I thought it was an exaggeration that you can even cut it with chopsticks, but it was really soft enough to work. When you chew the meat the delicious taste spreads in your mouth bit by bit. At first, I thought the meat is expensive, but now I agree (with the price). Although I didn’t grill it in a frypan, I think it was good I gave the BBQ grill a try.
グラスフェッドのヒレ肉！ とても美味しいお肉でした。 ホルモン剤や抗生物質が不使用なので安心して食べれます。 冷凍肉という事で試しに購入しましたが納得＆満足のいくヒレ肉でした。
Translated from Japanese: Just like the product description said, it’s really delicious. I would prefer it if you sold only half of the size, as it’s really big.
Translated from Japanese: I cooked it in a round oven. There was no unpleasant smell, it was soft and really delicious!! I’m waiting for my next order~
Translated from Japanese: Even for me, who doesn’t like fat and likes lean meat, this sirloin is not so greasy and the meat tastes good and delicious, so I like it and buy it several times. Until now, we received meat with only some fat, but this time we received mostly fat. Of the three I ordered, one was exceptionally full of fat and more than 20% of the total meat was fat, so I was a little disappointed that there was less to eat. I don't think it's a problem for people who like fat ...
Translated from Japanese: I cooked it in an iron skillet and seasoned it only with salt and pepper.
It’s very delicious lean meat. The meat quality was also soft.
Translated from Japanese: There wasn’t too much marbling on the meat and it was soft and delicious.
I would like to buy it again.
Translated from Japanese: I've heard that grass-fed has a little odor, but this one had none at all!
I tried a vegan challenge a while ago, but I wasn't feeling well and thought that I needed the nutritional value of meat, so I did a lot of research. Isn't it good if the animals are grazing and freely raised and eat plants? So I decided to eat only grass-fed meat.
It’s said that it is good for your health, so I will continue to do so in the future.
I will buy it again!
Translated from Japanese: Just as expected, the taste was good. A little expensive though.
Translated from Japanese: It's amazing that they are packed one by one! For the first time, I came across such politely packed meat. You can use it for shabu-shabu with confidence even if it’s frozen. Of course I will buy it again!!!
Translated from Japanese: I put the meat in a shabu-shabu pot with little water. When I ate it with four people, the water didn't catch up and I'm impressed that I could eat as many slices I wanted without a bad smell filling the room. 6 packs, eating them during the consecutive holidays ^ ^
Translated from Japanese: I ate it as shabu-shabu. It was delicious, so I'd like to give it 100 points, but the paper that separates each slice of meat stuck and tore the meat, and it was difficult to peel off, so I'll give it 98 points.
Translated from Japanese: I had it as shabu-shabu.
The flavor was very strong and it was really delicious. There is also an oily part, but it’s not heavy and we ate one pack completely.
I'm wondering if, when eating out, shabu-shabu is still good!
I recommend any meat from Horizon Farms, but especially this one.
Translated from Japanese: The meat is good, soft and tasty. It was really delicious. It’s cut in thin slices and there’s one piece of paper in between every thin slice, so it’s really easy to use.
Actually, I think it’s better to wait properly, but because I was in a hurry and wanted 4 slices, I removed the first on top and the last on the bottom in the frozen state easily.
Translated from Japanese: The meat was very tender with only a few streaks.
It was good meat so I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: Soft and delicious. I cut it into two halves and cooked it like a steak with salt and pepper and garlic, then I added onions as well. Even if you cook it in thick slices, it doesn’t become dry, so it’s easy to cook. More than rare, I found it softer at medium rare.
Translated from Japanese: Salt, garlic and black pepper are enough for this meat. It’s the finest gem.
Don’t eat pork very often but couldn’t resist buying because it just looked so delicious and reminded me of special dinners with my family. Ordered instead of turkey or lamb for Christmas dinner and couldn’t have been happier. My slow cooked pot roast was moist, delicious and flavourful. Both skin and meat had a nice, mild, clean taste which I think comes from the way the pig was raised. Will definitely buy again even though it’s a lot for one person. Saved bones for broth.
Translated from Japanese: When I wanted to make a Danish-style roasted pork Flæskesteg, I found this meat with skin and bought it.
When roasted in the oven, according to the cooking method here, the skin turned crispy, the fat was delicious, and the meat part was delicious lean meat, which was very satisfying.
Pork with skin is hard to come by, so I would like to buy it again.
Translated from Japanese: There is no doubt that this meat is delicious.
I misunderstood and thought this is ribs with skin.
I boiled it and it turned out hard so I couldn't chew it
It’s probably delicious when you cook it in the oven.
Translated from Japanese: Without using an oven, I cooked it in a layered pot.
My ingredients were simply salt, pepper and garlic.
I used a big amount of salt, but the outcome was just right and to my satisfaction!
I cut a little more than half of the fat off and stir-fried it with konjac and vegetables for a different dish. That one turned out delicious, too. Even though it was fat, it didn’t cause heartburn.
For those who can’t stop eating, it’s better to cut off only a smart amount of the meat and preserve the rest in the freezer. It’s convenient for days with little time or when you don’t want to cook.
Translated from Japanese: Until a year and a half ago, I was crazy about eating out in restaurants, but it changed drastically and I haven't eaten out for a day due to the corona. Every day, I’ve been looking for ingredients that don’t use antibiotics and are not genetically modified. I found HORIZON FARMS and was impressed with the quality and taste of the meat that I cooked at low temperature, so I ordered again. I think it's wonderful that you are so thorough about food safety.
Not a bad piece of meat but personally I think Tomahawk is more tender and juicy than this bone in ribeye.
Translated from Japanese: Very delicious!
Translated from Japanese: I’m glad it was considerably big.
I wonder if it would be even more delicious if I grilled it more?
Translated from Japanese: It was really soft and delicious! I ate it with Texas spice. I could also eat it without worrying about the fat on the meat. I will order again!
Translated from Japanese: It’s the real thing.
Translated from Japanese: I think that American beef is the most delicious. Japanese oily beef tastes bad, but the taste of this one is splendid from the first bite. I grilled it carefully on low heat and ate it rare. It was a great success. I think I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: There is no smell from freezing.
It's very easy to use and delicious, so I will order it again!
Translated from Japanese: I’m happy to be able to eat various fruits at once.
Mango, blueberry, pineapple and more are mixed.
All of them are delicious.
Translated from Japanese: It was my first time eating European beef and it had no odor and was delicious. I would like to order again.
Translated from Japanese: Meat characterized by the tender quality of lean meat.
Those who buy this for the first time, be careful about the size (laugh)
A large chunk of meat arrived frozen, so I thawed it in the refrigerator for about 72 hours to disassemble it.
We recommend that you purchase when you have plenty of room in your refrigerator.
I made 5 roast beefs and separated the roast beef for steak and streak stew.
The meat itself was moist, tender and juicy! Because it’s lean meat, you can enjoy the original taste of meat.
There was no odor.
Since I made a lot of them, I took them to my workplace and ate them with everyone and they praised me, so I think there is no problem.
I want to eat roast beef to my heart's content!!!! I think that it’s the best product for those who say:
“I'm looking forward to eat steak and stewed streaks.”
Personally, it’s price effective ◎ so I will order again ◎.
When I tried to buy it, it was sold out at the wrong time, but when I contacted the shop, I was kindly contacted when they restocked it. I was also satisfied with the shipping and packaging.
Since it’s really big, I didn’t really know where to put the knife to cut it into pieces, so I’d like it if there were instructions about how to cut it to use as roast beef.
Translated from Japanese: It seems to be soft and delicious.
I cook the streaks with flavorful vegetables to make a sauce. It can be used for various purposes because it’s as big as a dice, for example curry, thickened steak, sliced and grilled meat. And only real fat is thrown away!
I want to try another product!
Translated from Japanese: I have been reordering it many times.
It's more delicious to eat at home than at a restaurant, so I haven’t been going out much anymore.
The fat is also delicious. In case there is a lot of it, I cut and freeze only the fat.
I will order again.
Translated from Japanese: First of all, it's delicious.
Even if you cook it at a normal cooking level, it surpasses the meat you eat at the store by a lot.
Then, it’s healthy.
So far, I have never seen a product that is friendly to both people and the environment, sticking to each viewpoint.
As a result, you can eat it comfortably and the taste is doubled.
And, it’s economical.
To be honest, I'm surprised that it can be sold at this price.
In the future, I will be happy if I can constantly buy these products.
It filled my heart, body and mind, and easily gave me the high valuable experience of eating something delicious.
Thank you very much.
Hopefully, I'll continuously be able to order under these conditions.
Translated from Japanese: It’s lean meat with a moderate amount of fat and a strong taste. There was no unpleasant smell and it was very delicious. Depending on how it’s cooked, it may become hard. Depending on the recipe, if you check it carefully and put it on the fire, it will be the most delicious.
I will purchase it again!
Translated from Japanese: Everyone is impressed by the lean meat! In particular, the color of the eyes of my two high school sons has changed. I want to order again. Highly recommended!
Translated from Japanese: I’ve always liked meat so I often go to Yakiniku restaurants or the butcher’s shop. Although I eat that kind of meat every day, cooking the meat of this store at home yourself, it still turned out really soft and as the meat’s original taste was preserved, it seemed like it was coming from a high-class restaurant.
It goes very well together with wine.
Translated from Japanese: I baked it with the method mentioned below. I will buy it again!!!! It's delicious!
1) Thaw in the refrigerator
2) Take out of the refrigerator to reach room temperature
3) Put olive oil in a vat and add olive oil to the whole meat.
4) Put the wire mesh in another vat and put the meat on the wire mesh (to reduce the area in contact with the hot metal).
4) Preheat the inside of the oven to 85 degrees (My microwave oven can only go up to about 85 degrees even if the setting is 100 degrees, but this seems to be good)
6) Place in the oven and heat for 45 minutes. Do the work of applying olive oil in 3) every 10 minutes and turn it upside down.
7) After heating, heat the iron skillet well (about 230 degrees), add 1 tablespoon of butter (I used unsalted French butter from this website) and bake for 20 seconds on the front side, 20 seconds on the back side, and 20 seconds on the sides.
8) Put the meat back in the bat of 4), cover it and leave it for 10 minutes. During this time, serve the garnish on the plate.
9) Cut diagonally to a thickness that is easy to eat (about 8 mm in my case) and serve on a plate.
10) Sprinkle 1.2 g of salt and sprinkle with black pepper (it was surprisingly delicious even with salt and pepper).
I ordered your Skin On Free Range Pork Shoulder for my Christmas dinner. I defrosted as per instructions and seasoned well with sea salt, pepper, dill seeds and juniper. Roasted low and slow as per instructions and then cranked up the oven to 220 for the final 25mins for delicious crackling. I cooked the meat on a bed of onions and while resting, the pan juices made a flavourful gravy. Would definitely recommend and buy again!